Joe: On this episode of the "CBD University Podcast," giving back to our local community, our million-dollar pet CBD product donation is complete. Hear from a local shelter on how our products directly benefited sheltered pets they care for every day and the ongoing need for adoptions of sheltered animals. This is the "CBD University Podcast," and it starts right now.
I'm Joe Agostinelli, host of the "CBD University Podcast." If you are a returning listener, we welcome you back to our podcast. And if you are a new listener, we are glad you found us on your podcast platform of choice. Don't forget to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts to receive notifications when new episodes are published each week, full video episodes available on our YouTube channel, that's The Global Widget YouTube channel and the YouTube channels of our brands, Hemp Bombs, and Nature's Script. Well, we recently completed our CBD product giveaway where we partnered with over a dozen shelters in the Tampa Bay, Florida area to donate our CBD pet oils, CBD pet shampoos, and dog biscuits to help shelters care for sheltered animals. One of those shelters is the Humane Society of Tampa Bay. And joining me today is their behavior and enrichment manager, Glen Hatchell. Glen, thanks for joining me. Good to see you again.
Glen: Thank you, Joe. Good to see you again too and thanks to Global Widget for the donations. We've been putting them to use. It has been very useful for us. So, I wanna thank you on behalf of the Humane Society of Tampa Bay for helping out the wonderful animals that we get to take care of.
Joe: And let's talk a little bit about the Humane Society before we get into the products and the donation and how they've been helping. So, tell our listeners and our viewers a little bit about the Humane Society. I know you guys recently had a big opening of a new facility.
Glen: That we did. That we did. In September, we moved in, had our first day in our brand new facility, a 50,000-square-foot facility that's built right on the same property that we've been on since 1912. So, the Humane Society has been part of the community for a hundred and...you do the math, 109 years. And it's wonderful that we were able to build it right where that our existing shelter was, right on that very space. In fact, when you guys came out, we were able to do, I think I was able to take you guys through. Yeah, I got in trouble for doing that. I wasn't supposed to take any groups through, but you know, y'all got to see it. I was glad that you did, but we're what's called a managed admission shelter. So, we bring in strays, we take owner surrenders, we take dogs in from other transfers, but when we get full, we also, at that point say, "Sorry, we can't bring any more animals in." So, we're able to control it, unlike an open admission shelter where, you know, like typically, your county shelters are any animals going to come in. Obviously, COVID has thrown a wrench for everybody right now, but anyway. So, that's what we are. We do about a thousand... I'm sorry. Excuse me. Each year, this year... Now we're in 2021 now. Last year, we took in over 11,000 animals into our facility. So, we are considered a high-volume facility, even from a national model aspect as far as the numbers we take in.
Joe: So, which of our products have you been using, and do you use the products on both cats and dogs?
Glen: At the shelter, I'm using them just on dogs. In my own house, I'm using the CBD Oil on both my cats and my dogs.
Joe: Oh, okay.
Glen: And I'll talk a little bit about why. Part of it obviously is when you guys came, we were in that process of transitioning into the new shelter. So, I was more focused on or more interested in what did I know I would be able to put to use immediately. And I knew that cats were gonna be, as far as being able to get it level, to be able to have oils in there, I wanted to start with the dogs. So, we're using the Hemp Oil, the CBD Oil on dogs, and I've used them in select cases on cats. So, that's the two products we're using right now because I also knew that because I know you've got the treats, the shampoos, all of that. I knew it was going to be a while before we would be able to use it and if somebody used it, I wasn't sure I was gonna get any feedback. So, I thought, let's just go with the oils for right now and start with, you know, with what I can really keep an eye on and see how it fits.
Joe: And are there specific times that you use the products and how have the oils been working?
Glen: Usually, I will give them to them at feeding time and feeding happens in the morning, generally around 9:00 and we open at 10:00. So, that works well in that about an hour after, well, an hour after they eat, we're open. And what I have found is the impact, the efficacy of the CBD Oil is really for about two hours after they eat in the morning. And when people are coming to visit our shelter, if the dogs are relaxed, then they're gonna present better. And that's been one of the advantages of...as I've expanded it to more and more dogs. Right now, in one of my kennels, I have all the dogs eating regardless of their scenarios. In other situations, I've got scared dogs, fearful dogs, some that are showing a little bit of that uncertainty about being in that kind of environment. And I've been pinpointing more specifically with some of those dogs because it can give them that window of being a little more relaxed. And for some dogs, that's all they need to recover. And if they've got that moment to relax, and they've had something that's startling, traumatic, scary, but all of a sudden they have this window where they're relaxed, they're gonna recover quicker because dogs are incredibly adaptable.
Joe: And has there been any challenges in giving pets the CBD products? Are some more anxious than others and if so, any good stories on how you've been able to maybe overcome that?
Glen: What I have noticed is that generally, they detect if there's something different the first time they have it and you can, kind of, see them bring back and it's funny. A couple of them will, you know, turn their head left and right, kind of, if they're probably sniffing it, getting a little more smells from it. I've only had one dog who really avoided the dry... Typically what I do is just drip it onto the dry kibble.
Joe: That's what I was gonna ask you. Yeah.
Glen: That's the easiest, especially at the shelter where we may have volunteers who are there for the first day that may be doing the food prep. So, it's easier just to put it on the dry food. With the one dog that hesitated with it, I actually put it on some wet food and, of course, it was the wet food and it's like, "Well, I'm gonna eat the wet food. " You know, wet food is wet food, you know, that's a higher value. And I then, kinda, transitioned from that to where I was putting it back on the dry kibble and was able to remove the wet food. Now, that just happened to be one dog, but I found it interesting that it's like, it was, kind of, averse to it to begin with, but then when I put it on something and he had it with something really tasty, then it was easier to get him to do it off of the dry food.
I really have not tried doing it on treats and partly because if I take a hard, kind of, treat, I need a treat that could absorb the oil. And not all treats will do it. So, right now, I've just decided that, you know, as far as putting the oil on the treats, that's why we're just doing it under the regular feeding time.
Joe: From a training perspective, have you noticed any changes, you know, in regards to any training that you're doing with the dogs after...? Do you give them oil before at all?
Glen: Yes. That's a great question. For a lot of the dogs, again, if we can get them in a more relaxed state, they're gonna show more dog behaviors and if they're showing dog behaviors, then it's easier to train them, and sometimes it's just getting them comfortable in the crazy shelter environment. That's always my first goal is before I really do any training or try to do anything with them, I wanna get them comfortable and be happy that somebody's coming with a leash to take them outside because we have, actually, one of the dogs right now who I've just started in the last couple of days on oils is very scared of coming outside. We'll walk on the leash, fine walking around through the shelter, but you try to step outside the door and it's like, "Nope."
So, this is a dog that, you know, I've got a specific situation here of wanting to get her within that two-hour window, after that, do some door work to see if that may give her a different state of mind to go through the door. So, that's one that I'm looking over the next couple of days to actually be doing. Quite often, this is one of the things I love about our new facility is I have my own office and a lot of the really scared dogs, I take them to my office during the day. So, I'll take them out in the morning, let them go outside. I like to find something they like to do, and then I'll bring them back into my office and because it's much calmer than it is in the kennels. And I'll bring them back, feed them in my office, but I'll put the oils on the food In there. So, in those cases, I'm actually able to sit there and almost, you know, constant minute by minute monitor what they're doing. So, that's turned out to be pretty advantageous as well.
Again, these are generally very scared and skittish dogs. So, all I'm focusing on there is trying to eliminate the fear, but, you know, that's life in a shelter. Tomorrow, it may be that we've got a bunch of them we're gonna be training. So...
Joe: Yeah. And I was just gonna ask you that. And I know, you know, when you talk about life in a shelter, this isn't obviously just for your shelter. This is for shelters, you know, anywhere go through those same problems.
Joe: So, what advice would you give to other shelters who are also taking in the CBD products or looking to use CBD products in the ways that the Humane Society has now been able to take advantage of?
Glen: Every shelter is different. Every shelter has their excess resources and their limited resources. And which is, you know, why I was saying I chose to just specifically let's take what we can use and really focus on. So, you know, I'll tell you. There are so many products that are out there. I get asked frequently about, "Well, I've been thinking about trying CBD Oil with my dog." And I'm very science-based and I know right now, a lot of the researchers are trying to figure out, is there a way that we can really do studies? And I know there's a lot of research that's going on along those lines now. And since there was so much going on, I never did anything with it. So, the fact that you guys came forward and offered it, was like, "Okay, here's that opportunity to be able to try it out." And actually, I'm absolutely a believer now. With the number of the dogs that I have worked with at the shelter when they've... Well, some of those when they've gone home and others, after they got home and were showing other certain behaviors, I provided bottles to those owners, to those adopters to provide for their dogs. And they have all had very good success with it. And again much like I've seen. You know, it gives that window to where this calmness factor is. And that really, if we can get the dog in that state of mind, frame of mind, that's that training window. That's where we can do the behavior modification, you know. And you know, 20 years ago or 10 years ago, fluoxetine, and now, there's things like CBD Oils that are, you know, natural. And, you know, they're not chemicals. They're coming out of the ground and that's better than having them on chemicals.
Joe: And you talk a little bit about once they leave the shelter, have you noticed an uptick when it comes to dog owners and an increase in popularity of CBD products from...?
Glen: I think more and more people are trying it, absolutely. Just based on the number of questions I get asked about it, so, yeah. I think absolutely it's something that a lot of people are trying.
Joe: And Glen, before we wrap up things, we talked a little bit about this in the beginning and I wanted to get back to it. What impact has the pandemic had on the number of pets that the shelter has taken in and the number of adoptions that you have seen maybe now over the last year?
Glen: We've been blown away. We really have. One, we're extremely fortunate to live in a very animal-loving community. And the Tampa Bay supports the Human Society of Tampa Bay just, I mean, we've been here 112 years, you know, we just completed this $50,000 facility, which we actually, again, this is one of the big thanks to the community. You know, I mean, we are a private foundation. We don't get tax money, we don't, you know, Humane Society is a private 501(c)(3) corporation. We depend on contributions. We moved in without a mortgage. So, that was tremendously huge for us because we didn't think we were gonna be able to. So, that just another way that the community just supports in such an animal-loving community, but between 2019 and 2020, we took in 1,000 more animals in 2020 than we did the year before. So, even with the pandemic and even with construction going on for three quarters of the year, which means we lost about a third of our shelter size from what it had been, we took in 1,000 more animals and I think our adoption numbers were 200 shy of what in 2020 than they were in 2019. And so, I mean, we're talking like 9,400 versus 9,200. So, and the numbers were just absolutely amazing. And we expect this year that we'll probably be over 12,000 as far as the number of animals that come through the door.
And we also have an animal health center, which is a low-cost veterinary clinic as well. And the animal health center last year saw over 44,000 animals in their practice there as far as wellness care and well, not just wellness care. In some cases it's, you know, taking care of sick and injured animals. So...
Joe: Well, it's great to hear everything that the Humane Society of Tampa Bay is doing and we are excited to be a part of helping you guys out. And certainly, we'd love to have you back and talk a little bit more about this as we go on throughout the year.
Glen: I would love to. I'd love to. Thank you, Joe. Thanks again to Global Widget.
Joe: Yeah. Thank you, Glen. And for our listeners and our viewers, wherever you may be listening or watching from, if you are interested in pet adoption, we invite you to contact your local Humane Society or a pet shelter near you to learn more about pet adoption or how you could help out these great organizations. Glen Hatchell of the Humane Society of Tampa Bay, my guest on this episode of the "CBD University Podcast." Thanks for joining me. And as I mentioned, we look forward to having you back again. And thank you for being a part of this episode of the "CBD University Podcast." If you have not yet done so, I invite you to subscribe to our podcast wherever you get your podcasts. You'll get notifications each week when new episodes are published and don't forget to catch full video episodes on our YouTube channel and the YouTube channels of our brands, Hemp Bombs and Nature's Script. I'm Joe Agostinelli, host of the "CBD University Podcast." Thanks for tuning in.
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